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Beginner Sourdough Starter Recipe

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By Emilie Raffa — Updated February 28, 2025 — This post may contain affiliate links.
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This post will teach you how to make a beginner sourdough starter at home, step-by-step. All you need is flour, water and a little bit of patience. Before you know it, you’ll have your very own bubbly, active sourdough starter to make my best sourdough bread recipe, sourdough focaccia and more! Grab your personal sourdough starter feeding chart.

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Sourdough starter

Looking to bake sourdough bread? First: you’ll need a sourdough starter. Without it, your bread won’t rise. It’s the absolute heart and soul of sourdough baking. Creating a sourdough starter from scratch is not hard to do. However, the process is intimidating, especially for beginners. Let’s change that.

Adapted from my bestselling book Artisan Sourdough Made Simple, I will demystify and simplify the process with step-by-step recipe instructions. In approximately 7+ days (yes, it takes that long- there are no shortcuts) you’ll get approximately 1 cup of bubbly, active sourdough starter which is more than enough to make bread, including my best sourdough bread recipe with olive oil (most popular recipe on my blog!). More sourdough bread recipes here.

Sourdough is more than just a recipe; it’s an understanding. So before we dive in, let’s define.

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Sourdough starter

What Is Sourdough Starter?

A sourdough starter is a live, fermented culture of flour and water filled with wild yeast and bacteria from our environment. A small portion is added to sourdough bread dough to make it rise. Commercial yeast IS NOT required.

Sounds a bit weird, right? Of course it does. Know this: natural “wild” yeast is all around us. It can be found in a bag of flour, in the air, on your hands etc. Just because you can’t see it, doesn’t mean it’s not there and doing its thing. It’s like magic.

How Long Will It Take?

To create a sourdough starter from scratch, the overall process will take 7 days (or more) from start to finish. It’s not instant. First, you’ll create the starter with whole wheat flour to jumpstart fermentation. Then, you’ll continue to feed it with regular all purpose flour or bread flour to cultivate the wild yeasts and friendly bacteria. Once it’s created, you’ll keep it alive with ongoing feedings and care, which you can read about here.

When Will It Be Ready To Use?

Your starter is ready to use when it has doubled in size, with plenty of bubbles on the surface and throughout the culture.

NOTE: It’s not uncommon for it to take up to two weeks or more for the starter to become active. It all depends. I know this timeframe sounds a bit vague, but growing yeast in a jar (that’s basically what you’re doing) can be unpredictable at times. Please be patient if the process takes time for you- it’s normal.

Is It Difficult To Do?

Absolutely not! In short: you’re basically adding flour and water to a jar, feeding it with more flour and water and waiting for it to become bubbly, active and double in size. That’s it. Most of your time involvement is hands-off. Can I ask you a favor though? Don’t overthink it. There’s a ton of sourdough information out there, and you will fall down a major rabbit hole if you start poking around. Just stick to this tutorial for now, follow the steps as written and just go for it.

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Beginner Sourdough Starter Recipe {Step-By-Step}

You Will Need:

Supplies

  • 3/4 L jar (I use this one)
  • Digital scale
  • Small rubber spatula

Ingredients

To create the sourdough starter on Day 1:

  • 60 g (1/2 cup) whole wheat flour
  • 60 g (1/4 cup) water

To feed the sourdough starter each day (Days 3-7):

  • 60 g (1/2 cup) unbleached all purpose flour or bread flour
  • 60 g (1/4 cup) water

NOTE: Use regular, unbleached all purpose flour or bread flour for best results. I use flour from KAF, Trader Joe’s or Whole Foods. As for organic flour, I first learned that it wasn’t always successful when first creating a sourdough starter (sourdough can be finicky). However, due to the widespread use of glyphosate, I’ve been inspired to re-test with organic flour. The results were good. Please experiment with what resonates. For the water, filtered or tap water is fine. Use the latter if you know it’s mostly chemical/chlorine free. 

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Day 1: Make The Sourdough Starter

  • First, download and print out this chart. It’s your daily “at a glance” feeding schedule to keep you on track.
  • Add 60 g (1⁄2 cup) of whole wheat flour and 60 g (1⁄4 cup) of water to your sourdough starter jar. Total yield: 120 g sourdough starter.
  • Mix with a fork until smooth; the consistency will be thick and pasty.
  • Cover with plastic wrap or a lid, and let rest in a warm spot, about 75 F for 24 hours.

Temperature Tips: Temperature is very important. If it’s too cold, your starter won’t rise and the process will take longer. Consider the following tips if you’re looking for a warm, 75 F spot. Place your starter on a cookie sheet inside the oven (turned off) with the light on for a only few hours to give it a boost (please don’t leave it there overnight- the environment will become too warm). Monitor the temperature with an oven thermometer. You can also use a proofing box set to your desired temperature, or a microwave with the door ajar and the light on.

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Day 2: Got Bubbles?

  • Today, you’re going to check if any small bubbles have appeared on the surface.
  • Bubbles indicate fermentation, which is what you want. However, it’s okay if you don’t see anything right away; the bubbles might have appeared and dissolved overnight while you were sleeping. This happens quite often.
  • You do not have to do anything else on Day 2. Just let it rest in your warm spot for another 24 hours. Feel free to stir once or twice to oxygenate the mixture.

Tip: What’s That Brown Liquid? During the creation process, and even after your starter has been established, a dark liquid might appear on the surface (the image below shows the liquid in the middle of the starter). This liquid is called “hooch” and is an indication that your starter is hungry. It also has a very distinct smell, similar to rubbing alcohol or gym socks. This is normal. Don’t freak out. Any time you see this liquid, it’s best to pour it off before feeding it with fresh flour and water.

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Days 3-7: Feed Your Sourdough Starter

Whether bubbles are visible or not, it’s time to start the ongoing feeding process. As the natural yeasts begin to develop, your starter will rise. Bubbles will form on the surface. Eventually, your starter will fall back down or “collapse” indicating that it’s time to feed it again. The goal: is to increase the total quantity to about 236 g (1 cup) following the specific feeding ratio outlined below on each day.

Before you begin, a few tips for success:

  • Establish a feeding schedule. Feed your starter at the same time each day. This will train your starter to rise and fall predictably, which is what you want. Consider feeding your starter in the morning when you wake up. Again, this is where my feeding chart comes in handy.
  • Track the growth. Place a rubber band or piece of masking tape around the jar to measure the starter as it rises. When it falls, you’ll see streaks of starter on the sides of the jar.
  • Keep your jar clean: Use a small rubber spatula to scrape down the sides of the jar to prevent mold growing up the sides.
  • Be patient. This is a slow, gradual process. Remember: temperature (75 F) and consistency (daily feedings @ approximately the same time each day) is key.

Day 3:

  • Remove and discard half (60g) of your sourdough starter from the jar. To do so: use a spoon to scoop it out, or pour the starter directly into a bowl to weigh (you can also just eyeball it- the amount doesn’t have to be exact). The texture will be very stretchy.
  • To the jar: Add 60 g (1⁄2 cup) of all-purpose flour + 60 g (1/4 cup) of water. Mix with a fork until smooth. Scrape down the sides with a small rubber spatular. The texture should resemble thick pancake batter or plain yogurt at this point.
  • Cover and let rest in a warm spot, 70-75 F for 24 hours.
  • Total yield: 180 g starter.

Day 4:

  • Remove and discard half (90 g) of the sourdough starter.
  • To the jar: Add 60 g (1⁄2 cup) of all-purpose flour + 60 g (1/4 cup) of water to the jar. Mix well and scrape down the sides.
  • Cover and let rest in a warm spot for 24 hours.
  • Total yield: 210 g starter.
  • Note: The growth of your starter might appear to slow down on Days 3-4, after switching to all purpose or bread flour for the ongoing feedings. This is normal. Your starter needs more time to adjust. Be patient.

Day 5:

  • Remove and discard half (105 g) of the sourdough starter.
  • To the jar: Add 60 g (1⁄2 cup) of all-purpose flour + 60 g (1/4 cup) of water. Mix well.
  • Cover and let rest in a warm spot for 24 hours.
  • Total yield: 225 g starter

Day 6:

  • Remove and discard half (112 g) of the starter.
  • To the jar: Add 60 g (1⁄2 cup) of all-purpose flour + 60 g (1/4 cup) of water. Mix well and scrape down the sides.
  • Cover and let rest in a warm spot for 24 hours.
  • Total yield: 232.5 g starter

Day 7:

  • Remove and discard half (116.25) of the sourdough starter.
  • To the jar: Add 60 g (1⁄2 cup) of all-purpose flour + 60 g (1/4 cup) of water. Mix well, and scrape down the sides.
  • Cover and let rest in a warm spot for 24 hours.
  • Total yield: 236 g starter

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Day 7-8: A Sourdough Starter Is Born!

  • By now, your sourdough starter should have doubled in size. You should see plenty of bubbles, both large and small. The texture will now be spongy, fluffy, and similar to roasted marshmallows (think: s’mores). It should also smell pleasant and not like stinky gym socks. If these conditions are met, your starter is now active.
  • The very last step is to transfer your sourdough starter to a nice, clean jar. Do this only if your current jar needs a good scrub. Otherwise, leave it as is.
  • In keeping with tradition, you can also name your sourdough starter (and please do). My starter is called Dillon after my oldest boy. It’s bright and bubbly, just like him ;)
  • Now you’re ready to bake. Start with my beginner sourdough bread recipe- you’re going to love it!

Feeding & Maintaining Sourdough Starter For Ongoing Care

So you’ve created a sourdough starter! Now what? Just like any living creature, your starter must be kept alive with regular feedings, proper storage, and ongoing care to keep to maintain its strength. If your starter is not strong, your bread will not rise. Once you’re starter is established, read my companion article to learn exactly how I do it- Feeding Sourdough Starter: My Best Tips & Tricks. Have more questions? Read troubleshooting your sourdough starter.

Note: You will need to feed your starter every time prior to making bread dough and to maintain it (keep it alive).

How To Store Sourdough Starter

At Room Temperature: If you bake often, let’s say a few times a week, store your starter at room temperature. This will speed up fermentation, making the starter bubbly, active, and ready to use faster. Room temperature starters should be fed one to two times a day, depending on how quickly they rise and fall.

In the Fridge: If you don’t bake that often, store your starter in the fridge covered with a lid. You’ll only need to feed it about once a week or so to maintain its strength when not in use (you can just feed it cold and then pop it back in the fridge right afterwards; no need to warm it up first). When you are ready to make dough, feed your starter at room temperature as needed, to wake it back up.

Frequently Asked Questions & Helpful Info:

1.) What If my starter is not ready after 7+ days?

Feed every 8-12 hours (not 24) and continue the same formula: Discard half starter. Feed (Add): 60g flour & 60g water and store at 70-75°F / 21-24°C. Too runny? Add an additional 1-2 tbs of flour. Note: the most common reason for your starter not starting is cold temperature.

2.) Can this sourdough starter be made with all purpose flour only?

Yes. The process might take a little longer.

3.) Can sourdough starter be made with bread flour only?

Yes. Because it’s more “thirsty” than AP flour, add more water if the texture is too thick.

4.) Can this sourdough starter be made with whole wheat, spelt flour or rye flour only?

Yes. Like bread flour, whole grain flour absorbs more water than all purpose flour, so adjust the texture with additional water your starter is too thick.

5.) Can sourdough starter be made with bleached flour?

Yes. But it’s not recommended. The chemicals can throw off the fermentation process. Some readers have reported success, however. Your choice!

6.) Why do you use whole wheat flour in the beginning of the recipe? And then switch to all purpose flour for the ongoing feedings?

Whole wheat flour is used to jumpstart the fermentation process. All purpose flour or bread flour is used for the ongoing feedings because it’s inexpensive, practical and suitable for everyday baking.

7.) On Days 3 & 4, my starter is not as bubbly compared to Days 1 & 2. Growth is slowing down. Why?

As mentioned in question #5, whole wheat flour is used in the beginning to jumpstart fermentation. This is why you saw bubbles right away. When you switch to all purpose or bread flour for the ongoing feedings, growth will inevitably slow down on Days 3-4, as your starter needs time to adjust to the new flour. This is normal. Growth is still happening.

8.) For the daily feedings, you mention to feed your starter “equal parts” flour and water by weight. For example: 60 g (1⁄2 cup) flour + 60 g (1⁄4 cup). But the volume conversions (measuring cups) are not equal. Is this a typo?

No. It’s not a typo. “Equal parts” refers to feeding by weight only. Not measuring cups. Here’s why: different ingredients weigh different amounts based on density. For example 1 cup of flour can weigh anywhere from 125-150 g depending on how it was packed into the measuring cup. 1 cup of water can weigh anywhere between 236-250 g. Because weights are constant, it streamlines the process for accuracy. It is the preferred measuring unit in bread baking. The volume approximates are listed for convenience because not everyone has a scale.

9.) Can I use the sourdough discard from Day 1-7 for something else?

In the beginning, I typically don’t recommend using the discard (it’s usually really smelly and discolored). I recommend using the discard after the starter has been established. However, everyone will have a different experience with this. If it looks good- use it! And yes, you can save it to create a new, separate sourdough starter if you’d like. For more info please read Sourdough Discard 101: Recipes & Faqs Answered.

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Beginner Sourdough Starter Recipe

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  • Author: Emilie Raffa
  • Yield: appx. 236 g (1 cup)
  • Category: Sourdough Starter
  • Method: 1-Bowl
  • Cuisine: American
  • Diet: Vegan
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Looking for an easy, sourdough starter recipe for beginners? Adapted from my bestselling book Artisan Sourdough Made Simple, follow my no-nonsense, step-by-step guide for practical tips, tricks, and ongoing care- anyone can do it. Use it to make my famous golden, crusty sourdough bread recipe.

Please read my notes below before you begin.

Notes, Tips & Expectations:

  • Download & print personal sourdough starter feeding chart {here}. 
  • The overall process takes ~7+ days, if the temperature is warm enough, ideally 70-75 F. However, it can take up to 2+ weeks or more for a strong starter to become established. Do not ignore the importance of temperature.
  • Growth will seem to slow down on Days 3-4. This delay is commonly called a “false” start. It’s also normal- the yeast needs time to cultivate. Please be patient!
  • You will need one large 3/4 L jar, or something of similar size (I use this one). Place a rubber band or piece of masking tape around the jar to measure the starter’s growth as it rises.
  • To clarify feeding your starter: “equal parts” refers to equal weights only, not measuring cups. Example: 60 g (1/2 cup) flour + 60 g (1/4 cup) water. Same weight. Different volume. Not a typo. Why? Flour is light, fluffy and full of air pockets, so it takes up more space in a measuring cup (but weighs less than water). Water is more dense and compact; it takes up less space but weighs more than flour. That’s why their cup measurements don’t match, even when their weights are identical. Many bakers get confused by this. I’ve included volume measurements for convenience since not everyone owns a scale. But, do choose one measurement system and stick with it for feeding!

Ingredients

Note: Once your starter is established, make your first loaf using my sourdough bread recipe.

  • 1x (5lb) bag all purpose flour or bread flour (I use either KAF, Trader Joe’s, or Whole Foods)
  • 1/2 cup (60g) whole wheat flour (I use KAF whole wheat)
  • Water, preferably warm around 85 F 


Instructions

Before you begin: Establish a feeding schedule. Meaning, feed your starter at the same time each day. This will establish consistency, which sourdough starters love. Consider feeding your starter in the morning when you wake up. 

Day 1:

  • Combine 60 g (1⁄2 cup) of whole wheat flour + 60 g (1⁄4 cup) of warm water in a large jar. Mix with a fork until smooth; the consistency will be thick and pasty. 
  • Cover with plastic wrap, reusable wax wrap, or a lid and let rest in a warm spot, about 70-75 F for 24 hours. Temperature is important.
  • Total approximate yield: 120 g starter

TIP: Looking for a warm, 75 F spot? Place your starter on a cookie sheet inside the oven (turned off) with the light on for only 1-2 hours (it can get hot in there, so keep you eye on it!). Center rack is best. You can also use a proofing box set to your desired temperature, or a microwave with the door ajar and light on.

Day 2: 

Check to see if any bubbles have appeared on the surface. If you don’t see anything, it’s okay. The bubbles might have appeared and dissolved overnight while you were sleeping. Feel free to stir once or twice to oxygenate the mixture.  Otherwise, you don’t have to do anything else now. Rest the starter for another 24 hours.

TIP: During the creation process, and even after your starter has been established, a dark liquid might appear on the surface and throughout the culture. It has a very stinky smell, similar to rubbing alcohol or gym socks. This liquid is called “hooch” and is an indication that your starter needs to be fed. It’s normal. Any time you see this liquid, it’s best to remove it along with any discolored starter present.

Day 3:

  • Remove and discard half (60g) of your sourdough starter from the jar. To do so: use a spoon to scoop it out, or pour it directly into a bowl to weigh (you can also just eyeball the amount- it doesn’t have to be exact). The texture will be very stretchy.
  • To the jar: Add 60 g (1⁄2 cup) of all-purpose flour + 60 g (1/4 cup) of water. Mix with a fork until smooth. Scrape down the sides with a small rubber spatular. The texture should resemble thick pancake batter or plain yogurt at this point.
  • Cover and let rest in a warm spot, 70-75 F for 24 hours.
  • Total yield: 180 g starter

Day 4:

  • Remove and discard half (90 g) of the sourdough starter.
  • To the jar: Add 60 g (1⁄2 cup) of all-purpose flour + 60 g (1/4 cup) of water to the jar. Mix well. Scrape down the sides.
  • Cover and let rest in a warm spot, 70-75 F for 24 hours.
  • Total yield: 210 g starter

Note: The growth of your starter might appear to slow down on Days 3-4, after switching to all purpose or bread flour for the ongoing feedings. This is normal. Your starter needs more time to adjust. Be patient.

Day 5:

  • Remove and discard half (105 g) of the sourdough starter.
  • To the jar: Add 60 g (1⁄2 cup) of all-purpose flour + 60 g (1/4 cup) of water. Mix well. Scrape down the sides.
  • Cover and let rest in a warm spot, 70-75 F for 24 hours.
  • Total yield: 225 g starter

Day 6:

  • Remove and discard half (112 g) of the sourdough starter. 
  • To the jar: Add 60 g (1⁄2 cup) of all-purpose flour + 60 g (1/4 cup) of water. Mix well. Scrape down the sides.
  • Cover and let rest in a warm spot, 70-75 F for 24 hours.
  • Total yield: 232.5 g starter

Day 7:

  • Remove and discard half (116.25) of the sourdough starter. 
  • To the jar: Add 60 g (1⁄2 cup) of all-purpose flour + 60 g (1/4 cup) of water. Mix well. Scrape down the sides.
  • Cover and let rest in a warm spot, 70-75 F for 24 hours. 
  • Total yield: 236 g starter

Day 8:

By now, your starter should have doubled in size. You should see plenty of bubbles, both large and small. The texture will be spongy, fluffy, and similar to roasted marshmallows (think: s’mores). It should smell pleasant, and not link stinky like gym socks. If these conditions are met, your starter is now active and ready to use!
 
Please keep in mind, if your starter is not ready at this point, which is quite common due to temperature issues (too cold), timing, and other factors, continue feeding it for 1-2 weeks or more. Be patient! 
 
The very last step is to transfer your starter to a nice, clean jar. You only need to do this if your jar is crusty looking and needs a good wash. Then, in keeping with tradition, name your starter. My starter is called Dillon, after my oldest boy.
 
Wondering if your starter is ready to use?

When your starter is fully active, do the float test. Feed your starter, wait for it to double in size, and then drop a teaspoon of bubbly starter into a jar of water; if it floats to the top it’s ready to use. 

Storage Options

If you bake often, store your starter at room temperature (feed it 1x-2x a day to keep it active). If you plan to bake only once in a while, store it in the fridge to preserve its strength (feed it 1x a week). When storing your starter in the fridge, there’s no need to bring it to room temperature first before feeding it. Just give it some flour and water and pop it back in the fridge.


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  1. Tish says

    February 6, 2024 at 9:30 pm

    This was beyond helpful!! I am glad i came across this, i made my first starter with this and have since made English muffins and bagels! Thank you for the awesome explanations and thorough directions!!

    Reply
  2. Carol says

    February 5, 2024 at 11:00 pm

    Easy to follow instructions.
    Thank you.

    Reply
  3. Carol says

    February 5, 2024 at 10:59 pm

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  4. Alyssa says

    February 5, 2024 at 10:31 pm

    After the starter is active and you can store it in the fridge, do you continue just covering with a towel or do you switch to a lid?

    Reply
    • G. MacN says

      February 7, 2024 at 3:35 pm

      Storing in fridge requires only 1 to 2 feedings per week as opposed to daily on counter.

      Another option is to freeze starter in air tight container for up to a year.
      It is only recommended to freeze mature starter.
      Once starter is mature, remove amount you would normally use for receipe and freeze, continue step with each additional discard until you have what you feel is an adequate supply of individual frozen starter.
      Use frozen starter in future baking( may need a feeding Once thawed before use).
      Once you get to final frozen starter, restart the feeding cycle of last batch to create new batches to be frozen (save you the process of waiting a week for mature starter)

      Reply
  5. Kim says

    February 5, 2024 at 7:30 pm

    Help my sour dough isn’t rising. It’s day 8 and it’s doing nothing. I’ve followed all the instructions. I’ve placed it in the oven with the light on and still nothing. It doesn’t rise and has few bubbles. It’s like it’s stuck or something. What should I do? Is it dead? I use filtered water at 85 degrees, and Bob Mills unbleached all purpose flour to feed it.

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    • Barbara says

      February 10, 2024 at 11:59 am

      I had the same problem and tried everything I could think of. So yesterday after feeding I just covered it with a coffee filter instead of the jar lid and this morning it tripled in size. Thinking it didn’t get enough air when lid is screwed on too tide.

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      • Emilie Raffa says

        February 13, 2024 at 11:52 am

        Thank you Barbara! Great advice!

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 11:52 am

      Moving forward, keep your starter on the kitchen counter so you can see it. Feed it at the same time each day. If the texture is too runny, add more flour to reach a thick, batter-like consistency or use bread flour (and remember to note this consistency for ongoing feedings to get it up to speed). Then, create a hot water bath: place your starter jar in a bowl of hot water (do not submerge) and let it rest at room temp. changing out the water as needed. Bubbles will start to rise from the bottom up. Also: another reader recommended using a coffee filter instead of a lid for more air circulation. Try a combination of these tips!

      Reply
  6. Elisa says

    February 5, 2024 at 4:41 pm

    Thank you so much! I made my starter and followed all directions. I got a little worried on day one because I don’t think I used enough water, but was able to continue feeding and had a healthy starter on day 7. I made 2 loaves of bread and they turned out great! I’m excited to see what other things I will bake.

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 11:39 am

      Starters are very resilient. It’s all about consistency, which you figured out intuitively by continuing to feed it. Well done! For more info on feeding, check out this article: https://www.theclevercarrot.com/2021/01/feeding-sourdough-starter-my-best-tips-tricks/

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  7. Amanda says

    February 5, 2024 at 12:13 pm

    Hi! I am on day 8 (didn’t pass the float test) but I have noticed my starter falls before the 24 hour mark to feed it. Should I feed it sooner if it starts to fall? I have noticed the past two days when it’s the 24 hour mark to feed that it is dry on top and has fallen.

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 11:30 am

      Great observation. Yes: go ahead and feed it sooner. Totally fine. Moving forward, continue to observe and record how long it takes to rise and fall (the timing will change throughout the seasons as your ambient temperature changes) and make adjustments from there.

      Reply
  8. Kathryn Siede says

    February 2, 2024 at 4:32 am

    I have been following the starter recipe and method but still unsure when I use it? Do I add it to my bread mixture when it is in max rise? As I have never actually caught it at this stage yet? Thanks in advance? Also day 3 of feeding and I have not been discarding? Oopsie can I just start discarding half now and extend the length of days feeding? Or is it once it’s risen and float test its good to go.

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 11:27 am

      Yes. For best results, use your starter when it has doubled in size, also known as “peak” height. It’s hard to catch this stage if you don’t know how long it takes for your starter to rise. That’s why it’s beneficial to feed your starter at the same time each day, so you can observe and record how long the rise takes. Then you can calculate! It’s ok if you did not discard on Day 3. Just do so going forward extending the length of time it needs to become fully active.

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  9. mindy m says

    February 1, 2024 at 8:27 pm

    This has been SUPER helpful… my start is on day 7 and ready to go. I do have a question, do I continue to remove half of the starter each time I feed it moving forward? Thank you so much!

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 11:12 am

      Yes! It’s best to discard some of your starter before feeding it each time. It rebalances the acidity levels and keeps it from growing exponentially in size. Alternatively, to limit discarding, you can keep a “mother” sourdough starter in the fridge. To use, remove some of the starter from your mother jar and feed it separately in a small bowl or jar.

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  10. Shauna says

    February 1, 2024 at 5:56 am

    Should it smell like wine?

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  11. Jana Michaud says

    January 31, 2024 at 5:31 pm

    Sour dough bread. Can you freeze your starter dough that you do not use.

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    • Shauna says

      February 1, 2024 at 3:42 pm

      I’ve not finished the process.
      Tonight will be the…3rd time I reduce and feed. I still have a couple more days until I can go to once a week feeding, and start keeping it in the fridge. It’s just got a really strong smell of wine.
      (Like a dry white wine) I assume that’s normal then?

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      • Emilie Raffa says

        February 13, 2024 at 11:06 am

        Generally speaking: the aroma should be fresh and fruity. If it has a strong alcohol smell, which can be normal at different stages throughout the process, it just means that your starter is “eating up” all if its food and needs a fresh feeding of flour and water, relatively soon. This is why it’s important to discard some of your starter before feedings to refresh the acidity levels within the culture itself. Hope this helps!

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 10:42 am

      To clarify, do you mean freeze the dough (unbaked)? Or your sourdough starter? Thanks!

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  12. Gill says

    January 31, 2024 at 2:54 am

    I’m literally on day 5 of my starter and it’s looking great 👍 I’ve never made soughdough before so really looking forward to it!
    Thankyou Clever Carrot 🥕

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 10:41 am

      You are very welcome! Good luck!

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  13. Carl Stapleton says

    January 26, 2024 at 11:28 am

    Hello
    I am on day 8. I have some bubbles but it is not growing. I feed it at 7 each morning. The average temperature is between 70 to. 80 degrees F. I use the oven with the light. I followed the instructions, I eve use a scale to measure the ingredients. A bit frustrated, my second attempt. Any thoughts!

    Thanks
    Carl

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    • Lucero says

      January 27, 2024 at 1:08 am

      When you are covering it, make sure to not put a lid on tightly. It needs to breathe. Cheese cloth with a rubber band would do well as a “lid”

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 10:41 am

      My sense is that it’s too warm. The oven light can get very hot after a while, and your starter is probably exhausting itself too quickly. Try the hot water bath tip instead: place your starter jar in a bowl of hot water (do not submerge) and leave on the counter. Change out the water when you can remember (it gets cold). Continue to feed it at the same time each day, monitoring the rise and fall, bubbles etc. If it’s too runny, cut back on the water and/or switch to bread flour.

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  14. Alaine says

    January 26, 2024 at 9:28 am

    Ok, so tomorrow is my 7th day…I’m a bit nervous.in reading your instructions..I should discard first, then add again…then take out what I need? Do I transfer it to a clean jar first? Just need help! Thanks!!

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 10:31 am

      You are discarding and feeding (from Day 3 onwards) until your starter is active. On Day 7, if it’s active, great! Once it has doubled in size, take out what you need for your recipe. If not, keep feeding it. I recommend transferring your starter to a clean jar if your current one is a little crusty from the feeding process. However, this is optional.

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  15. Francesca says

    January 26, 2024 at 8:27 am

    Hi, thank you for the recipe and guide! I am on Day 3 and am due to feed it after discarding. You mention removing the hooch. The hooch is at the bottom of mine. Do I need to mix it before discarding half or just remove the top half? It hasn’t quite doubled in size yet but had definitely grown.

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    • Alexandra says

      January 29, 2024 at 9:29 am

      Mine is the same, the hooch is on the bottom! Hopefully someone knows what that means and what to do about it

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      • G. MacN says

        February 7, 2024 at 2:47 pm

        If you have alot of hooch, like an inch in a quart jar, the pour it out and replace with same amount of water. Mix then continue with dividing and feeding schedule.
        If it is just a little bit of hooch just mix it in and then divide and feed.

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      • Emilie Raffa says

        February 13, 2024 at 10:27 am

        Hi there! Totally normal. Just tilt the jar and scoop it out if possible. Don’t worry if you can’t remove all of it; just don’t mix it back in.

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    • Danielle says

      February 1, 2024 at 4:16 pm

      When I had a middle layer of hooch I tilted the jar and poured it out, using a spoon to hold back most of the starter. Then I scooped out any discolored starter before mixing and feeding. I think mixing it in before discarding would make more of the stinky stuff stay in your starter for long term, which is unappealing 😆

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 10:26 am

      Great question. I would remove it if possible (don’t mix it back in). Tilt the jar and spoon if out if you can get in there!

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  16. Brianna says

    January 25, 2024 at 8:53 pm

    My started looked amazing when it was time for its first feed on day 3. Lots of bubbles. I’m on day 5 and it appears pretty liquid. I am having a lot of bubbles but no rise at all. Any suggestions about what I may be doing wrong? It is cold but I have it covered with a kitchen towel

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 10:25 am

      Feed it at the same time each time to promote a regular rise and fall. Also, make sure your starter is resting in a warm spot, ideally 72-75 F. If the texture is still too runny, add more flour to correct the consistency or switch to bread flour. These tips should help!

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      • Franky says

        February 13, 2024 at 12:13 pm

        How long will starter dough keep for

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        • Emilie Raffa says

          February 13, 2024 at 12:18 pm

          You starter will keep indefinitely with consistent feedings, ongoing care, and proper storage.

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  17. Celia says

    January 24, 2024 at 11:17 pm

    Hi again! I read some older comments and came across the answer to my question. So please disregard my question about weekly feeding schedule. Again, many thanks for sharing your knowledge, experience, expertise, tips, and tricks!

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 10:23 am

      No worries! Thanks for the update ;)

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  18. Roxanne Kramer says

    January 24, 2024 at 1:38 pm

    Hi my name is Roxanne I just have a question if I use all purpose flour instead of whole wheat flour would I use the same amount

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    • Celia says

      January 24, 2024 at 9:16 pm

      Hello Emilie,

      Could you kindly share what a weekly feeding schedule looks like after you have an established starter and it’s being stored in the fridge?

      So how much starter do I leave in the jar and how much water and flour do I add? Would it still be to leave half the starter and add 60g each of water and flour?

      Thank you very much for this recipe and your further assistance!!

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      • Emilie Raffa says

        February 13, 2024 at 10:21 am

        For fridge starters, feed them 1x/ week (or even 1x every two weeks) to keep it healthy. Following a 1:1:1 ratio is the most common. So for example: if you have 80 g of starter in the jar, feed it with 80 g of flour + 80 g of water. If you have 40 g of starter, feed it with 40 g of flour + 40 g of water. Does that make sense? You can scale the quantity up or down, keeping the ratio the same.

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 10:23 am

      Yes, you can use the same amount. However, the consistency might not be the same (whole wheat flour absorbs more water than all purpose flour). Reduce the water if necessary to create a thick, batter-like consistency.

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  19. Mrs B says

    January 24, 2024 at 1:22 pm

    I think every article should begin with a patience disclaimer. This requires commitment to a craft. Not for everyone. I have tried and failed a lot, scheduling/remembering. I bought books, wasted tons of flour and frustrated myself all the way to the local bakery.

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      February 13, 2024 at 10:18 am

      Sourdough does indeed take time, patience and persistence. Once you get the hang of it however, it’s truly rewarding!

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  20. Sean Mason says

    January 24, 2024 at 6:38 am

    I’ve been trying to get my starter to rise for the past six days, to no avail. I’ve got bubbles, I’ve got smells, I’ve got hooch, I’ve got the heat (in oven with light on) but I’ve got no rise :)
    I used whole wheat flour to start, and then fed with enriched white flour and warm un chlorinated water after the third day. Any suggestions while I wait for your book to arrive.
    Thank you so much

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 24, 2024 at 8:10 am

      Bubbles are good. It’s an indication of fermentation. Hooch tells us you starter needs to be fed (again). So, the question is: how much time is elapsing in between feedings? Try to shorten it, and/or be sure to feed your starter at the same time each day for consistency. Additionally, don’t keep the starter in the oven for too long. It can get really hot in there which speeds up the rise and fall of your starter giving the illusion that it’s not doing anything. Alternatively, you might want to try a hot water bath on the counter so you can keep an eye on it. Hope this helps.

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  21. Tammy TW says

    January 23, 2024 at 8:01 pm

    I’m confused as to why the recipe states 60g for each flour and water but says 1/2 c of flour and 1/4c water? I’m assuming this is a typo?

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 24, 2024 at 8:06 am

      Hi there! Not a typo. Equal parts refers to weight amounts only. Since flour and water are different ingredients, they do not weigh the same amount (i.e. 1 cup of flour can weigh anywhere between 120-150 g depending on how it was packed / 1 cup water can weigh between 236 -250 ml depending on the size of the measuring vessel). Therefore, the volume “equivalent” from grams to measuring cups is only approximate. Not exact.

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  22. Heather Trahan says

    January 23, 2024 at 11:49 am

    Hi my starter is doubling in size and passed the float test… I’m just wondering cause the smell is still off better then the beginning but still smells a little like polish?? It’s that ok ??

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  23. Sheryl says

    January 23, 2024 at 10:53 am

    Good morning! I started day 1 yesterday and followed instructions exactly. I keep my home cool because I have hot flashes, and it’s been really cold here. So I put the starter in my oven (off) with the light on as recommended. My starter was beautiful this morning and very bubbly. My concern is that it grew x 3! As I read the instructions, I didn’t think it was supposed to grow until the 3rd or 4th day. Is this something I should be concerned about? I can send a picture of when I started and now if you like. Thanks so much. I love your recipe. It is so easy to follow.

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  24. Joyce says

    January 23, 2024 at 9:00 am

    Thank you for your great information on sourdough. I used freshly ground wheat for my starter and plan on using freshly ground wheat to make my bread with. Will your recipe work with those ingredients? Would I need to do extra sifting of the wheat? It’s hard Red spring wheat berries. My starter doubles and lots of bubbles and smells wonderful, but it sank when I did the float test. Does that test work with 100% wheat or is it too heavy? Sorry for the rambling I just want to make sure it has enough strength for a good lift.

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  25. Mariel says

    January 22, 2024 at 2:19 am

    Hello
    I have started I’m on the day 5, I have feed the started all the time with whole flour, yesterday on the day 4 I feed the started with all purpose flour, and I also put it put of the jar wash the jar and put it back; today in the morning it didn’t rise at all, it had alot of liquid on the top, that I tro it out, I feed it again with whole flour, also I don’t have a scale so I put the same measurement off flour every time and I have notice that water I have put less to have the same texture, if you can’t give me some inside about the process, thank you so much🙏🙏

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  26. Katie says

    January 21, 2024 at 7:28 pm

    I’m currently day five (going on day six) and I’m not seeing a lot of growth/increased size of the starter and it’s very liquid, like pancake batter. Following measurements by weight. There are bubbles but again, very liquid. Everything was good through day one, two, and three (stretchy consistency). Then four and five it’s just been pretty liquid, about the same volume. I discard the hooch, remove about half, and add the new flour and water. Is this normal? Am I doing something wrong? When will I start to see it grow?? Thanks!

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  27. Maureen says

    January 20, 2024 at 11:19 am

    Hi I’ve tried doing this starter twice and I’m having issues. My first step is great with wheat flour, lots of bubbles. But by the 2nd or 3rd feed (bread flour) it gets too watery looking and all the bubbles disappear and it doesn’t grow. I tried adding less water the 2nd attempt but same thing. Any idea what I can change?

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    • Alexandria Gardner says

      January 21, 2024 at 11:03 am

      Maureen I have had the EXACT same issue both times. I’m commenting to hopefully see the reply from Emilie. I have one of those jars that show the temperature, so I know that’s not my issue! Would love to know as well.

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      • Diane L Blocker says

        January 21, 2024 at 2:20 pm

        My neighbor and I are having the same problem. What the heck? Neither of us are growing enough starter (90 g) for day 4. We were wondering if it is the super cold weather.

        Hopefully Emilie will answer all of us.

        Diane and Ches

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 21, 2024 at 4:13 pm

      Compared to Day 2, growth will slow down on Days 3+ because bread flour is being used instead of whole wheat flour. This is normal. They have different enzymes. Continue to feed it per the recipe instructions, adding a touch more flour (like you did) to correct the texture. Another reason it might be runny, is allowing too much time to elapse in between feedings. Meaning, the longer your starter sits, the more water the flour will absorb, which leads to a thin, watery texture. To remedy this, try to feed your starter at appx. the same time each day to train it to rise and fall predictably. Starters love consistency, so this is key. Lastly, continue to let you starter rise in a warm spot, ideally 75 F if possible. If this is not possible, try a hot water bath set on the kitchen counter- works like a charm!

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    • Brianna says

      January 25, 2024 at 8:55 pm

      I’m having the same problem! I’m on my third try. Looks amazing right before the first feed. Then with each feeding there are bubbles but zero rise and kind of liquidy

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      • Maureen Allen says

        February 1, 2024 at 2:42 pm

        Hi,

        I stuck with it like she said and I’m on like day 12/13. It is better, but I’m still not seeing much rise, maybe an inch, but not doubling in size. It also still smells like acetone.

        I do give it less water, more like 53g or so.

        Any advice?

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  28. Karen says

    January 20, 2024 at 9:54 am

    Hello! Thanks so much for your detailed instructions! This is my first try making sourdough starter. Unfortunately, I’ve been feeding mine in the early evening and it looks like it peaks during the night so when I wake up it’s already collapsed. How do I change the feeding schedule so that I can pull off the starter to bake with when it’s at its peak?

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 20, 2024 at 10:11 am

      Great question. Feed it in the morning. You’ll be able to start the dough in the afternoon (or early afternoon) depending on when you feed your starter. Then continue from there! PS: it’s best to play around with baking schedules on the weekend, or during another time when you know you’ll be around. This way you can nail down your timing.

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      • Karen says

        January 20, 2024 at 11:03 am

        Thanks so much for your quick reply!

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  29. Elena says

    January 20, 2024 at 6:43 am

    Thanks for the recipe!
    I am on day 5 and I haven’t seen any rise at all.
    It did double on day 3 and less than double on day 4.
    Its very cold where I live so I’m keeping it in the oven with the light on (thermometer reads arong 28C).
    I also was using just wholemeal flour.
    Can I save the starter or should I start over?
    Thanks again :)
    Elena

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  30. Colleen says

    January 19, 2024 at 3:56 pm

    I’m on Day 6th of my starter and it smells like a nice red wine, which I assume is a good thing. It isn’t doubling or doing much else but bubbling yet, so I’m assuming I need to just keep going. Question is, do do a 1:1:1 feed or feed like above, removing half the starter and 60g/60g of flour and water. Thanks!

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  31. Haley says

    January 19, 2024 at 9:05 am

    Hi, I’m already on the 6th day, but the starter still smell like the second day, plus the texture is too runny. What should I do?

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 19, 2024 at 11:54 am

      Your starter will look and smell different on different days. This is normal. If you feel that it’s too runny, which can happen, add a spoonful or two of flour to correct the consistency. Also, try to feed your starter at the same time each day. This way, approximately the same amount of time will elapse in between feedings which keeps the acidity levels balanced and fresh (this will help with the aroma too).

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  32. Nancy says

    January 18, 2024 at 7:02 pm

    Thank you for this great tutorial. I’m on day 6 and I’m not seeing very much rise, just bubbles. Is it salvageable or should I start over?

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 19, 2024 at 7:35 am

      Salvageable. Bubbles indicate some fermentation, so it sounds like your starter is almost there. However, it can take up to 2 weeks (or more) for your starter to become fully active. To give it a boost, starters love warmth. Move it to a warmer spot to rise, ideally 75 F (try placing it in a switched off oven with the light turned on for a few hours, or in a hot water bath on the counter).

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  33. Nadia Vermaak says

    January 18, 2024 at 10:11 am

    Thanks so much for this recipe – so well written and not overwhelming for a first-time sourdough baker :) apologies if this is written somewhere already, but once the starter is ready, how long do I need to wait after feeding it again before using it to make dough? For example, if I fed it at 7AM on baking day, is it good to use by 10AM?
    Thanks so much!

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 18, 2024 at 11:03 am

      Hi there! Timing for readiness is not concrete and will vary from baker to baker. It can take anywhere from 2-12 hours or more depending on temperature and the overall strength of your starter. This is why it’s really important to feed your starter at appx. the same time each day so you can observe and record exactly how long it takes in your current environment. In your case, try feeding your starter at 7 AM for a few days and note when it’s ready. This way, on baking day, you’ll have a more accurate time to start the dough. Does that make sense?

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      • Nadia says

        January 18, 2024 at 11:31 am

        Makes perfect sense, thanks :)

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        • Rosalind D. says

          January 19, 2024 at 7:04 am

          Do we feed the starter again on the same day after taking out from it to bake?

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          • Emilie Raffa says

            January 19, 2024 at 7:37 am

            Yes. You will need to feed your starter every time prior to making bread dough AND for ongoing care an maintenance. Read this post for more details: https://www.theclevercarrot.com/2021/01/feeding-sourdough-starter-my-best-tips-tricks/

          • Rosalind D. says

            January 21, 2024 at 7:28 am

            Ok so I looked at the link but still a bit unclear. I know it stated to wait at least 5 hours before baking for dough to rise after feeding. But when do we feed it again after removing starter to bake…right after or at regular feeding schedule.

            Example. I feed my starter every morning.
            On the day I bake I feed it regularly in the morning wait at least five hours and remove what I need to bake. At what point do I feed it again?… the same day or just wait until the morning to feed it on the regular schedule?

  34. Liv says

    January 18, 2024 at 8:59 am

    For days 4-6 if the starter falls before my scheduled feeding time, do I need to feed it again?

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 18, 2024 at 11:04 am

      You can do that if you prefer, and if your schedule allows. It won’t hurt. Just try to be as consistent as you can!

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  35. Ayannah says

    January 17, 2024 at 10:25 pm

    Hi! Thanks for the detailed recipe. When can I start to use the discard for making other dishes? It’s truly the only reason I’m doing this! 😂 Also, how do I know how often to feed it once it’s established?

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 18, 2024 at 11:07 am

      I would only use the discard after your starter has been established (so after the 7 + days). Once established, I’ve included “A Few Tips For Ongoing Care” at the bottom of this post. Additionally, check out this post for more details: https://www.theclevercarrot.com/2021/01/feeding-sourdough-starter-my-best-tips-tricks/

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  36. Taylor says

    January 17, 2024 at 6:45 pm

    Good evening! I started my sourdough starter journey today! I know it is already early to be asking questions but….I’m using a jar similar to the one you have in your photos. I have the top shut. Should I have it open and just top it with plastic wrap instead? Is it too sealed? I foresee many silly questions like this going forward despite how wonderfully straight forward but detailed your description/recipe is! Thank you!!

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 18, 2024 at 11:18 am

      Haha… no worries. Either way is fine. There’s no such thing as too sealed. Some bakers insist on continued air exposure, so w/o lid, whereas others do not. I typically keep mine covered for a multitude of reasons. A sealed lid builds up pressure fast (however, you do need to keep an eye on the jar so the starter doesn’t explode through the top as it grows) and it keeps the bugs out. Plastic wrap is fine too and easier to clean. Experiment and see what you like.

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  37. Carolyn says

    January 17, 2024 at 11:04 am

    Hi, thanks for the recipe. So, question… Fo nothing on day two even if the starter has more than doubled? Still leave it until day three?

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 17, 2024 at 1:32 pm

      Yes! Do nothing. It needs time to acclimate.

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      • Carolyn says

        January 17, 2024 at 4:48 pm

        Thanks 😊

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      • Nicole says

        January 21, 2024 at 2:39 pm

        Hi Emilie! I started my sourdough starter at 7:45 pm on Friday… checked it at 7:45 PM on Saturday and did nothing … but by the time I woke up on Sunday morning it was so bubbly and more than doubled I thought I should do the feeding earlier than the 48 hour mark. I ended up doing the feeding at 7:45 AM on Sunday (@ 36 hours since first starting rather than 48). Is it ok to keep going at 7:45 AM moving forward? Or should I restart based on you saying it needs 48 initial hours to acclimate? As everyone else says, thank you for your impeccable details and speedy responses! I have your book too! :)

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  38. Jamie says

    January 17, 2024 at 9:52 am

    I am starting my sourdough journey and have found your tutorial quite helpful. I do have one question about feeding the starter once it is established. When feeding either daily or weekly, depending on where it is stored, the same ratios of flour and water are used, 60g each, correct? I don’t want to louse it up after spending that much time on it. Thank you.

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 17, 2024 at 1:36 pm

      It can be any equal quantity by weight. For example, if you have 50 g of starter, feed it with 50 g flour + 50 g water. If you have 80 g starter, feed it with 80 g flour + 80 g water. You can scale up or down as needed. You won’t mess it up. Starters are resilient and don’t “die” quickly. They might look sluggish, but with adequate time, a warm temp. and patience, your starter will reward you well.

      More info in this article: https://www.theclevercarrot.com/2021/01/feeding-sourdough-starter-my-best-tips-tricks/

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  39. Kaitlin says

    January 17, 2024 at 7:09 am

    Hi! Thanks so much for the instructions. For the initial 60g of whole wheat flour and 60g of water, the texture is like a dough and seems too thick. Do I need to add water even though I measured by weight? It seems so thick it doesn’t look like it could form bubbles.

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 17, 2024 at 1:38 pm

      Nope! Just leave it alone. The texture is supposed to be really thick and pasty on Day 2 (even though it looks weird). All good. The texture will loosen up when you start the ongoing feedings, Day 3+.

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  40. Krista Murphy says

    January 16, 2024 at 10:38 am

    Hello. I am new to sourdough and I followed your instructions exactly. I am on day 8 now and it is rising and falling but seems a little runny after it falls. Is that normal? It doesn’t smell bad and has bubbles. But it just seems too runny. And after day 7 do you switch to the 1:1:1 ratio? Could that be my problem that I have too much starter when feeding? I will take any advice because I really want this to work out. My daughter is having alot of health problems and I read that sourdough bread is easier to digest so I am hoping it can help.

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 17, 2024 at 1:45 pm

      Yes, all normal. Your starter will always look different on different days. This is due to varying temperatures, type of flour used, how much time has elapsed in between feedings etc. Don’t get too caught up on disscecting these variables- it will make you crazy. Too runny = too much water. That’s it. With that said: after Day 7, if you starter is established, you can switch to the 1:1:1 feeding ratio. If it’s still too runny after following the ratio, don’t worry. It’s just a guide. Add a spoonful or two of flour to correct the consistency.

      More feeding tips in this article: https://www.theclevercarrot.com/2021/01/feeding-sourdough-starter-my-best-tips-tricks/

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      • Krista Murphy says

        January 17, 2024 at 2:57 pm

        Thank you! I started feeding it 2 times a day and it was still the same. So I switched to the 1:1:1 ratio and it again was the same. This morning fed it with whole wheat flower instead of all purpose and it seems like it’s back to think consistency. If it doesn’t stay this way I will try adding a little more flower.

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        • Emilie Raffa says

          January 17, 2024 at 3:10 pm

          Perfect! Yes, whole wheat flour will definitely make it thicker (it absorbs more water than all purpose). Bread flour works in the same way too.

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    • Lynn says

      January 22, 2024 at 7:02 pm

      Have never made starter before. Looks easy enough. Made sourdough bread lots of times. It’s been a while but thought it was part whole wheat and part white flour or bread flour.

      Can I use 30g or wheat and 30 g of white flour for my starter and to continue feeding it

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  41. Kristen says

    January 16, 2024 at 6:18 am

    I tested my starter on day 5 when discarding just for fun as I saw it had lots of bubbles and it had doubled in size and to my amazement it was floating! Does this mean it’s ready now even though it’s only day 5?

    Thanks!😊

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 17, 2024 at 1:47 pm

      Sure thing! You’re one of the lucky ones, lol. I would continue feeding it for the full 7 days for two reasons: to build more strength AND to get the total quantity of starter up to appx. 1 cup.

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      • Kristen says

        January 17, 2024 at 6:17 pm

        It ended up falling flat the next day. I tried baking with it and it definitely wasn’t ready 😂. I’ve read a lot about a surge on day 3/4 and then it falling flat, this could possibly be my case 🤔

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        • Emilie Raffa says

          January 18, 2024 at 11:19 am

          This is OK! Your starter will never stay fully risen. What goes up must come down, so the “rise and fall” of your starter is actually normal. And yes: Days 3-4 will slow slightly because you are making the switch to white flour for the ongoing feedings. Keep going!

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  42. Michala says

    January 15, 2024 at 9:25 pm

    Hi! I’m on day 2 of creating my starter, and it’s already doubled in size after 24 hours. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong?

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 17, 2024 at 1:48 pm

      Normal! You didn’t do anything wrong. Most people see activity on Day 2 (this is due to whole wheat flour jumpstarting fermentation), with slower growth on Day 3+ when white flour is used for the ongoing feedings.

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  43. M Rowling says

    January 15, 2024 at 8:35 pm

    This is a great recipe thank you, I only have one question, after the 7 days do you still have to discard half of the starter or do you just feed it once a week if in the fridge?

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 17, 2024 at 1:50 pm

      Once it’s established, I always discard a portion every time before feeding it (in fridge or at room temp.) The amount doesn’t have to be exact. Some is better than none to rebalance the acidity levels. You might find this article helpful: https://www.theclevercarrot.com/2021/01/feeding-sourdough-starter-my-best-tips-tricks/

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  44. Jane says

    January 15, 2024 at 10:06 am

    This is my very first attempt at making a starter. I used whole wheat flour and am on day 3. I have bubbles so I can tell it’s starting to work, but I don’t have enough dough to remove a 1/2 cup and leave a 1/2 cup. Should I wait one more day or take out just enough to have a 1/2 in the jar?
    Thanks!

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    • Meagan says

      January 16, 2024 at 1:47 am

      Hello! I don’t think you remove a 1/2 cup. I think you just remove half of your total starter. :)

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      • Jane says

        January 17, 2024 at 10:35 am

        Thanks so much for your reply. Very helpful!

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        • Emilie Raffa says

          January 17, 2024 at 1:52 pm

          Yes, exactly! Thank you :)

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 17, 2024 at 1:52 pm

      Hi there! You don’t need to remove 1/2 cup. Just remove appx. “half” of what’s in the jar. Hope this helps!

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  45. Jessie says

    January 14, 2024 at 8:04 pm

    Hi! I’m on day 8 of my starter. It’s still like yogurt consistency but kind with small bubbles but not rising much at all. I thought it was ready on day 7 so I switched to a clean jar and still fed but then when it didn’t pass the float test and didn’t double in size i wanted to wait to bake. Should I just continue on the same path and hope it’s just taking longer than most?

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 17, 2024 at 2:37 pm

      Sounds like your starter is almost there. It can take up to 2 weeks! So yes, continue on the same path. Try moving your starter to a warmer spot to rise ideally 75 F. If this is not possible, try a hot water bath: place your starter jar in a bowl of hot water (do not submerge) and leave it there until you see small bubbles start to form inside of your starter. Switch out the water as needed because it will become cold. This tip really helps.

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  46. Karla Huston says

    January 13, 2024 at 12:17 pm

    Emilie, I love your recipes and use your book often. Since 2021, I’ve exclusively made sourdough bread using it. A friend gave me my starter in 1997. I named her Linda after my friend. I rarely used it, fed it maybe once a year. In my move to California in 2020, I carried it in a cooler across the country. In 2021, with your recipe book in hand, I revived it and use it often. I love your emails, tips, and tricks. Linda and I thank you!

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 17, 2024 at 2:39 pm

      Ahh… I love this Karla! What a story. I could literally picture your starter all nestled and cozy inside the cooler making it’s way across the country… Isn’t it amazing how they can bounce back? Your starter is a vintage star ;)

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  47. Ann H says

    January 13, 2024 at 12:07 pm

    Emilie, curious if a starter can be made using Caputo Italian flour. Since it’s a soft wheat flour, I wasn’t sure if it would work or be the same quality as a starter made using your startup recipe using whole wheat flour/all purpose flour. My other question is if you think it would work, would it be better to use their all purpose flour or their pizzeria flour for soft breads? Thanks in advance.

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 17, 2024 at 2:25 pm

      Great question. I work with Caputo Chef’s flour (red bag) mostly for fresh pasta, not so much sourdough. However, I’m sure it can be used to create a sourdough starter with some adjustments. According to their amazon page, it contains 13% protein (which is odd since it’s a soft wheat flour!) so technically it should work. Just make sure to use the amount in grams, not cups, in the recipe above (the volume of 00 flour is not equivalent to regular all purpose flour since it’s fine milled). And for further clarification, go with the all purpose Chef’s flour instead of the Pizza flour for now. It’s less expensive. Pizza flour is best for super high-heat baking (i.e. professional pizza ovens).

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  48. Faye L Klein says

    January 13, 2024 at 8:38 am

    For a mature starter (grown with your starter recipe which is the best!) that has been going well for many months, is there any reason that I can’t freeze it in a plastic bag when I am away from home for many weeks?

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 13, 2024 at 9:59 am

      Great question. You can, but keep in mind that frozen starter might lose its strength over time. It’s just one of those things… too cold? Possibly. I would refrigerate it, or dry it out for best results.

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      • Faye L Klein says

        January 13, 2024 at 11:57 am

        Thank you for your response, Emilie and for sharing all of your wonderful advice and recipes.

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    • Laura says

      January 23, 2024 at 6:19 am

      I know that you can actually dehydrate your starter and then rehydrate it when you’re ready to use it again. I think this might be your best bet for term storage. Xx

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  49. Scott Morgan says

    January 12, 2024 at 7:40 pm

    The suggestion of putting it in the oven with just the light bulb is great! It worked perfectly in this cold weather.. until my wife turned the oven on without looking and baked my starter…

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 13, 2024 at 10:02 am

      Ugh! This has happened to me too. It’s like you have to put a huge sign over the oven!

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  50. Ingrid says

    January 12, 2024 at 5:16 pm

    Hi Emilie I am thinking of starting my sourdough making journey :P and in reading your starter info I was wondering the 1/2 mix of water and flour that you need to empty from your jar, can you put that into another jar to start another lot or is that just silly because will you only use 1/2 the starter jar for a loaf and so won’t need more than one starter??
    Thanks for your time and help with this inquiry.

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    • Emilie Raffa says

      January 12, 2024 at 5:58 pm

      Hi there! Technically, yes. Do I recommend it? No. Here’s why: when creating a starter for the first time, per this recipe, your discard will be smelly, discolored and dark & liquidy (at times). The acidity levels are not balanced. It’s not worth saving to create a new starter. However, once your starter is up and running, your discard will be of better quality. When it’s fresh and not discolored, feel free to use it to create a new starter, share with friends, or incorporate into a sourdough discard recipe such as pancakes (search my site for the recipe! It’s wonderful!).

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      • Ingrid says

        January 14, 2024 at 6:32 pm

        You’re awesome 🙌 thank you so much 😊

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